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AMD RS780 have 15-20% better performance than NVIDIA MCP78S in 3Dmark05 and 3Dmark06
Csúcs várhatok SB710-re
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ftc
nagyúr
Exclusive SuPoX AF78T Ultra based on MCP78PV board appears on OCWorkbench
Gyuri khmmm...Biostar Ta690G-s tesztet linkelhetnéd sajátom
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#6723
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#6721
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6721
üzenetére
Még jó,hogy eme vélekedésseddel magad vagy....
számold ki: lasabb ramok 256bites nyákkal vs gyorsabb ramok 128bites nyákkal....jéé árban olcsobb a második és a sávszél egyezik? Ugynaz mint 64bites..minek meg vacak...de senki se számol,hogy 64 bit GDDR3-s ramokkal 1,4Ghz-n vagy 128bit DDR2-s ramokkal fele anyni Mhz-n....az első megoldás olcsobb...Szted miérttalálnak ki ill. fejlestik a memoriasporolási algoritmusokat illetve technikákat?
Nagy felbontáshoz inkább nagy memoria kell...128bites kariakt nem 1600 s felette sokták használlni hanem inkább 1440x900 vagy 1024*768-ban
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#6686
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#6685
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6685
üzenetére
kiből van a több? sztem akik nem 3d hajhászok...
ua mint tuning kérdés..engem nem izgat csak stabil legyen a gépem
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#6684
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#6681
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6681
üzenetére
hybrid SLI és CF? elég sok értelme van
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#6680
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#6679
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#6679
üzenetére
jah,de NV nem akarja odaadni senkinek...Intel is isnkább CF-t támogatja már...
s itt az idő,hogy via s SIS is előalljon saját CF megoldásával -
ftc
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ATI CrossFire Technology Remains Open.
ATI CrossFireX to Get AMD, Intel, Others’ Chipsets Supportkinyirják a SLI kezdeményezést?
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nagyúr
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ftc
nagyúr
AMD RS780 & NVIDIA MCP78 mainboard photos leaked on net
MCP78 benchmark results leaked
csemege karrrrrrrrrrácsonyra
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ftc
nagyúr
Introduction of ASRock ALiveDual-eSATA2 ULi M1695 + NF3 250 chipset mainboard Review
mennyire chipsetfüggő meglehet kukk
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#6586
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#6585
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6585
üzenetére
előjöhet egy oylan hiba graf alaklmazásnál a memoriában amit mint winben nem észklelsz s ne bukik meg mem teszten se...
amugy XP alatt mkire használod a4Gb ramot?
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#6581
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#6580
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6580
üzenetére
ugyanaz a chip
sztem nem
ebben 690V van s van 1-2 eltérés 2 közt....s jelenleg megvárnám jan február RS780 végetttuning van 250FSB de 230 a max mit elbir
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ftc
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AMD Hybrid CrossFire Preview: Making Two Slow GPUs... Not So Slow
There are two types of graphics that do a horrible job at running the latest 3D games: integrated graphics, and low-end discrete GPUs. The problem is that a gamer who actually wants to play something like Unreal Tournament 3 or Crysis can't do so on either of the aforementioned solutions, and if he/she only has $70 to spend on a GPU, that's unfortunately not going to be enough to solve their problem. ATI and NVIDIA have always argued that users of such low-end graphics aren't hardcore gamers and thus don't mind not being able to play the latest games. We would counter that they're not likely to become hardcore gamers because they can't play the games, but we'll save that debate for another day.
Much of the very low-end discrete graphics market exists because of Intel, believe it or not. Since Intel ships the vast majority of integrated GPUs, and since its integrated GPUs don't perform all that well, the market is ripe for both ATI and NVIDIA to step in and offer something slightly better, for minimal cost. However, Intel recently committed to accelerating its integrated graphics roadmap, resulting in much faster integrated GPUs over the coming years. This puts additional pressure on AMD/ATI and NVIDIA to increase the value of their low-end GPUs.
AMD's solution to adding value to both integrated and low-end discrete graphics is through what it is calling Hybrid CrossFire. During today's Analyst Day, AMD will be unveiling a very limited amount of information about Hybrid CrossFire and thus we're able to talk about some of the high-level details today.
Hybrid CrossFire works by allowing you to run integrated graphics and low-end discrete graphics in CrossFire (multi-GPU) mode, thus improving the overall performance. You're basically taking two horribly slow GPUs and making one not-so-slow GPU. Obviously, this will only work with AMD graphics and AMD chipsets, but the idea is an interesting one - it could very well improve the value seen in both integrated graphics and low-end discrete graphics, should the performance gains be significant enough. It also gives AMD a reason to sell you an AMD chipset and an AMD graphics card.
AMD insists that Hybrid CrossFire can take a game that's unplayable on a low-end graphics card, and make it playable thanks to the added horsepower of the integrated GPU.
Hybrid CrossFire requires two components: a Hybrid CrossFire chipset and supporting graphics card. The chipset part is the forthcoming RS780, a successor to the AMD 690G and an integrated graphics version of the AMD 790 chipset. The RS780 will ship with an integrated RV610 graphics core, the heart of the ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro. AMD insists that the RS780G's integrated graphics is fundamentally unchanged from the Radeon HD 2400, so we should expect a similar level of performance (AMD estimated 3 - 4x the 3DMark '06 score of the 690G, but gave no information on actual gaming tests).
Unfortunately, the first incarnation of Hybrid Crossfire with the RS780 will only really work with the upcoming Radeon HD 3400 series GPUs. If you stick a Radeon HD 3400 card (the 3450 and 3470 will arrive early next year), both the integrated RV610 graphics and the Radeon HD 3400 will work in tandem during 3D games. Where possible the two will employ a basic AFR CrossFire mode where each GPU is responsible for rendering its own frame. Since the two GPUs should be relatively well matched in terms of performance, load balancing shouldn't be a major problem. AMD told us that it has seen an increase in performance of anywhere from 40 - 70% in games like Unreal Tournament 3, Crysis and Call of Duty 4. We didn't receive any more guidance on performance.
The performance aspect of the technology won't work with any other cards, not to mention that there wouldn't be a performance benefit from running a Radeon HD 3870 and lowly RS780 integrated graphics in CrossFire. Hybrid CrossFire will allow you to have multi-monitor support across your integrated and discrete GPUs however.
The announcement gets even less exciting when you realize that the biggest feature of Hybrid CrossFire, the ability to power down your discrete graphics and only use integrated graphics in non-gaming scenarios, won't be delivered in the first version of the platform. While AMD mentioned that the power savings feature may be something we'll see in 2008, it's definitely not making its way out in the first release.
The power savings potential for Hybrid CrossFire is tremendous; even with the most aggressive power management we see on GPUs today, cards like the Radeon HD 3870 and GeForce 8800 GTS still waste a lot of power when not playing 3D games. Future versions of Hybrid CrossFire would allow you to switch to low power integrated graphics when you didn't need the performance of your discrete card, thus completely turning off power to the power hungry add-in GPU and relying on integrated graphics for basic video needs (e.g. Windows desktop).
The idea is that you'd get your video output from your integrated GPU, the add-in card would simply act as an accelerator driving data to the output on the motherboard. The future for technologies like Hybrid CrossFire is exciting. Expect to see Hybrid CrossFire with RS780 boards starting in late January for the Chinese market, and by March for the rest of the world. -
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#6520
ftc
nagyúr
Szabikaa20
#6517
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
Szabikaa20
#6517
üzenetére
Fáradt vagyok,de amit írtál az badarság....
K8 óta nem függ a chipsettől a memórakezelés...A CPU-ba van integrállva a memoriavezérlő..
K8:
S754 csak Single Channel....e
S939,AM2,AM2+ dual cannela többiről nem irok mert szerver socketek de ott is alap a dual ch.
A chipseteknek jelnleg 2 dolguk van:
északi hid: PCI-E vezérlés estleg intVGA
déli hid: kommunikácio biztositása ezközök közöttTess egy blokk diagram RS690-ről
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ftc
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AMD Notebook and Server Roadmap 2008
eltünt a budapest mag?
nesa- aki nem tud angolul azt sajnálom számtech világában alap legalább olvasás szintjén tudjon mégha yelvta nem is megy annyira
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ftc
nagyúr
In Jan 2008, both AMD and NVIDIA will be launching their new weapons, the AMD 780G and the NVIDIA MCP78 series of chipsets.
Both chipsets comes with integrated graphics but now it is upgraded to support DX10.
The more interesting feature is that it supports Hybrid SLI (NVIDIA) or Hybrid CrossFire (AMD). Both features are quite similar in nature. Basically, when the board is paired up with an external graphics card say a 8500GT with MCP78 board or a HD 2400XT with a AMD 780G board, SLI or CrossFire can be enabled running SLI or CF with the embedded graphics.
News have been circulating on the net that Hybrid SLI with a 8500GT lost to Hybrid CrossFire with a HD 2400XT.
We will have to wait and see when we get hold of the boards next year. Stay tuned.ocw
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diablo1984
#6223
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#6223
üzenetére
jah akkoriban még a 20K alti alpokat is lehtett tuningolni most meg csa ka 40K felttieket
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#6156
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#6155
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#6155
üzenetére
Már volt aneten egy video amit leszedtek 10 percen belül
ott ment amugy értelem akkor lene ah fullra lekapcsolná a másik VGA-t...de nemleht mert abab windows belehal
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ftc
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ftc
nagyúr
Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6 with Phenom GP 9600 Review
benen phenom review
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ATi renames 690G as ATI Radeon 2100
IN our previous report, we mentioned about the new driver. Our moderator found something unusual in the driver file.
He discovered :
"ATI Radeon HD 3850" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505
"ATI Radeon HD 3870" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9501
"ATI Radeon 2100" = ati2mtag_RS690, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_796E
What does that mean ? RV630 chipsets will be known as Radeon HD 3850 and Radeon HD 3870 ? What happens to RV670 then? upgrade as 3950/3970 ?
Another new discovery is that the RS690 chipset, formerly known as AMD 690G is now known as ATI RADEON 2100.
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ftc
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ftc
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Gigabyte MA69G-S3H - a Motherboard based on AMD 690G (Socket AM2) chipset
egy kis etszt ismerős lapról
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ftc
nagyúr
Apaaaa kezdődik!
Phenom X4 GP-7000 vs Athlon 64 X2 6400+
Érdekes eredmények....kb 2Ghz Phenom pariban van a 3,2Ghz X2-el
Picture of NVIDIA MCP78 chipset Exclusive at OCWORKBENCHTDP még mindig nagy NV-nél de javul
Chartered May Start Making AMD Processors Using 45nm Process Tech in 2009.
Komoylan gondolták a 45nm-t
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#5641
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#5640
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#5640
üzenetére
tuning nem érdekli a gyártokat
1% nem sok OEM-k a nagy vásárlok őket astabilitás ár s teljesitmény érdekli...
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#5639
ftc
nagyúr
diablo1984
#5637
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
diablo1984
#5637
üzenetére
ajaj nagy a misung
Nézzük
K8 alis hammer S939 S754-ben lehetett kapni
K9 ezt szokták emlegetni mint X2
Socket AM2 940 tüs és nem megy bele s939-be...noti változat Socket S1K9 több mint valszinü kimaradt több okbol...K10 fejelsztése kezdődött K9 fejlesztései fiok mélye vagy K10-ben.S AMD szakitani fog a K mgjelöésével...
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#5614
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#5612
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#5612
üzenetére
50 000 az uj zárás
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ftc
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ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe (AMD 790FX) goes on show in Japan
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe is based on the AMD 790FX that supports the next generation Phenom processor. It supoprts HT 3.0 and PCIe 2.0
From the pictures, it can be seen that there are 4 DDR2 slots, 2 PCI, 4 slots of PCIe x16 which can be configured to run in CrossFire X. Other features on board are SATAII, USB2.0, IEEE1394A, SPDIF out, eSATA, GbE, HD AUDIO etc. No pricing information is available. -
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#5503
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#5501
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#5501
üzenetére
szuszaaaa.... nem jöttek rá, hogy FET-t hűtenek annyira....meghogy NV egy ideje 1 chipsetes fronton vban
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ftc
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AMD Tri-core Processors Details Revealed
Codenames and features of the tri-core CPUs AMD is planning to launch next year and in 2009 have been revealed. Codenamed Toliman the first tri-core CPUs will adopt a 65nm process, support socket AM2+ motherboards and HyperTransport 3.0. The CPUs will have 2MB L3 cache and will be launched by the end of March 2008. The next-generation, 45nm-based CPUs will adopt socket AM3, support HyperTransport 3.0 and DDR2/DDR3 memory, and will launch in first half of 2009.
AMD Spider Platform on track for November
Techreport reports that AMD "Spider" platform is on track to launch in November. Spider will combine Phenom processors, RD790 chipsets, and RV670 graphics processors, so the statement essentially confirms that both Phenom and the RV670 are due next month. Regarding Phenom, AMD plans to introduce the new quad-core desktop chips at prices where it "[doesn't] participate today." Since AMD's most expensive desktop CPU has a recommended price of $220 right now, the firm may be confident enough to play in the same ballpark as at least Intel's $266 Core 2 Quad Q6600. As for the RV670, AMD intends to launch the product "with cards available in channels," suggesting a hard launch with immediate availability.
tököm teli azzal,hogy egyszer jo egyszer nem a dőlt irás
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ftc
nagyúr
válasz
Oliverda
#5418
üzenetére
AMD Barcelona core Opteron goes on sale in Japan. The two models on sale are with a TDP of 68W, the model 2346 HE (1.8GHz) and 2344 HE (1.7GHz). They retail for 34400 Yen (~296USD, 208 Euro) and 28140 Yen (~245USD, 172 Euro).
Model 2347 HE（1.9GHz） and boxed version TDP 95W TDP 2350（2.0GHz）、2347（1.9GHz） should go on sale in November. The retail price for 2347 HE is 51240 Yen (~447USD, 314Euro) model 2350 at 52290 Yen (~ 456 USD, 319Euro) and model 2347 at 42840 Yen (~373USD, 262 Euro).
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ftc
nagyúr
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#5344
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#5343
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#5343
üzenetére
stablitás s NV? 2 eltérő dolog
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ftc
nagyúr
válasz
Oliverda
#5336
üzenetére
-m ugye a mobilet jelnti
the M690T chipset "for embedded designs". Along side this chipset, AMD also announced the Model S1 DBM690T development board which has ATX support with PCI and PCI Express expansion slots, USB 2.0, CRT/DVI/LVDS display options, high definition audio and Gigabit Ethernet. This product has the purpose of speeding up the time-to-market for embedded client and single board computer designs and also provides support for the AMD Turion 64, Turion 64 X2 and Mobile AMD Sempron processors.
690G meg megyegyezik aztsalval :link
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#5322
ftc
nagyúr
VaniliásRönk
#5321
ftc
nagyúr
válasz
VaniliásRönk
#5321
üzenetére
mindig a latencyt hozzák elő....De miért is? mert késleltetés érzékeny az egész architektúra...talán ha más irányba fejlődne AMD nem lenen ekkora jelentősége...nativ 8 magnál majd megnézem int mem vezérlőt
csak tennének mellé 32 vay 64Mb int memoráit vlami gyorsabb GDDR3 fajtábol
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